I recently learned Bear blog (a small blogging platform, posts on which often appear on HN) has a “discover” section with a front page style ranking. Their algorithm is on the page
This page is ranked according to the following algorithm:
Score = log10(U) + (S / (B * 86,400))
Where,
U = Upvotes of a post
S = Seconds since Jan 1st, 2020
B = Buoyancy modifier (currently at 14)
This is a good exploration of the algorithm. In my experience, Lobsters has much more active moderator involvement in a more opinionated way than HN. Much of what’s referred to as moderation here is user-driven via flagging and votes, whereas on Lobsters the moderators are injecting more of an opinionated style into the site. For example, requiring the “vibecoding” tag on all stories about AI even though very few of them are about vibecoding.
In theory the Lobsters moderation log is also public, but in practice when someone gets banned if you try to find the post that triggered the banned it will have been edited away by the mods and replaced with their opinion of what was said in a follow up comment. I stopped visiting as much after watching someone get banned for a rather benign comment which the mods edited away and then claimed it said something egregious about a culture war topic, which it did not.
The site also puts up a banner at the top of your page if you receive enough negative votes. The banner invites you to delete your account as the last sentence (or it did in the past). In practice, if you comment something that isn’t the popular and accepted opinion on the site, no matter how diplomatically, you could end up with the banner stuck on your page views for a while. There have been some high profile and valuable contributors to the site who abandoned it after getting stuck with this banner for posting informative content that nevertheless triggered some downvotes.
It’s an interesting site, but in my experience the algorithms are only a small part of it. The experience there is more heavily aligned toward groupthink and the “right” opinions than even HN and differing opinions are much less welcomed.
> Thanks for resolving my internal dialog about returning to Lobsters.
I still load it from time to time, but the value of going there seems to diminish year over year. Every story that gets traction on Lobsters is already posted to HN now.
Many of the commenters I valued on Lobsters have given up on the site and left.
I catch myself starting to comment there and then deleting it because I’m worried about going too much against the acceptable narrative for each topic on the site, no matter how gently worded and hedged I make the comment.
I should have said “all stories about AI usage” which is exactly what your link says. If you post anything related to using or exploring AI, it’s forced to use the vibecoding tag. It doesn’t matter if it’s about vibecoding or coding at all.
The top voted comments on that thread get to the meat of the issue. Vibecoding was embraced as a derogatory term and applied broadly to every LLM related topic, even when vibecoding wasn’t involved.
> The quickest way to receive an invitation is to talk to someone you recognize from the site. If you wrote a link that was posted, please reach out in chat, we'd love to have you join the community. Finally, if you can't find anyone you know in the invitation tree and didn't author something posted to the site, consider getting to know the community in the chat room.
In theory the Lobsters moderation log is also public, but in practice when someone gets banned if you try to find the post that triggered the banned it will have been edited away by the mods and replaced with their opinion of what was said in a follow up comment. I stopped visiting as much after watching someone get banned for a rather benign comment which the mods edited away and then claimed it said something egregious about a culture war topic, which it did not.
The site also puts up a banner at the top of your page if you receive enough negative votes. The banner invites you to delete your account as the last sentence (or it did in the past). In practice, if you comment something that isn’t the popular and accepted opinion on the site, no matter how diplomatically, you could end up with the banner stuck on your page views for a while. There have been some high profile and valuable contributors to the site who abandoned it after getting stuck with this banner for posting informative content that nevertheless triggered some downvotes.
It’s an interesting site, but in my experience the algorithms are only a small part of it. The experience there is more heavily aligned toward groupthink and the “right” opinions than even HN and differing opinions are much less welcomed.
I still load it from time to time, but the value of going there seems to diminish year over year. Every story that gets traction on Lobsters is already posted to HN now.
Many of the commenters I valued on Lobsters have given up on the site and left.
I catch myself starting to comment there and then deleting it because I’m worried about going too much against the acceptable narrative for each topic on the site, no matter how gently worded and hedged I make the comment.
No? You either use AI or vibecoding, like the tag page says:
https://lobste.rs/tags
Forcing the “vibecoding” tag on to stories that aren’t vibecoding related has been a debate on the site for a while: https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms
The top voted comments on that thread get to the meat of the issue. Vibecoding was embraced as a derogatory term and applied broadly to every LLM related topic, even when vibecoding wasn’t involved.
https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-hacker-news-ranking...
From the about page
> The quickest way to receive an invitation is to talk to someone you recognize from the site. If you wrote a link that was posted, please reach out in chat, we'd love to have you join the community. Finally, if you can't find anyone you know in the invitation tree and didn't author something posted to the site, consider getting to know the community in the chat room.
Chat: https://lobste.rs/chat
I used to be active in chat and invited many users but I'm not that active now.