9 comments

  • comrade1234 1 hour ago
    When I read the headline at nytimes I was thinking that it was a test drone and they were testing the process of communicating across branches to coordinate taking down drones (a real problem) but no, it was just incompetence and idiocy. Guess I'm not cynical enough yet to match reality.
    • duxup 7 minutes ago
      The current administration has staffed administrators who seem to choose "shoot first and ask questions later" and generally struggle to communicate / coordinate like adults.
  • heisenbit 1 hour ago
    When Nena was singing about 99 balloons we thought it was hyperbole. Few understood she was a traveler from a future where soldiers where literally shooting down birthday balloons before progressing to drones. Scary to think about the next level of escalation.
  • crusty 1 hour ago
    So if you're keeping score, that's one party balloon and one of their own drones. The future looks bright!
    • nkrisc 57 minutes ago
      It only looks bright if the laser is aimed directly at you. But I suppose even that depends on the wavelength used.
      • blitzar 26 minutes ago
        Its only bright for a couple of nano seconds, then it gets really dark ... for ever
    • Eddy_Viscosity2 1 hour ago
      The party balloon was also ours. It wasn't even an intruder balloon.
    • blitzar 1 hour ago
      They are not sending their finest
  • philipallstar 1 hour ago
    > Cartels routinely use drones to deliver drugs across the Mexican border and surveil Border Patrol officers. Officials told Congress last summer that more than 27,000 drones were detected within 1,600 feet (500 meters) of the southern border in the last six months of 2024.

    No wonder they mistook one of theirs for one of these.

    • duxup 5 minutes ago
      I wonder how accurate that number is. Are detected drones just blips on some detection system? Are they even drug running drones, are they even drones at all?
    • orwin 26 minutes ago
      That's such am inefficient, hands-on, loud and dumb way to smuggle drugs across a border this large, this cannot be true. Unless you they are talking about submarines and land RCs, in that case sure, probably.
      • smallerize 6 minutes ago
        Quadrotors are loud, but fixed-wing drones are quieter, more efficient, and have much longer range.
      • 2OEH8eoCRo0 12 minutes ago
        What about model trains?
    • iso1631 4 minutes ago
      Given they have so far managed to shoot down a balloon and a government drone you'll forgive my scepticism.
    • pjc50 43 minutes ago
      Alternative hypothesis: the reported number of drones isn't real (anything the Trump government says about "cartels" can be assumed to be made up). The military got increasingly on alert, with senior officers pushing to get a shootdown on one of the not real drones. Therefore the laser operators end up firing on the first drone they confirm seeing.

      Compare the MH-17 incident. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident , which also involved no confirmed actual drone.

      • Georgelemental 19 minutes ago
        Wait, do you think the cartels aren’t real? Was all the violence in Mexico these past few days committed by ghosts or something?

        Because if they are real, and they are trying to get drugs into the United States (their primary income source), then drones seem like a perfectly reasonable method they might use to go about it. And yes, their have been plenty of confirmed cartel drones seized, shot down, etc with lower-tech methods in the past.

        • iso1631 1 minute ago
          Yet the US government can't seem to parade the hundreds of drones they are surely catching with the new operating model?

          It seems 100% of the drones they have shot down are US government ones.

          Which is it

          1) US government is deliberately avoiding the cartel ones

          2) US government is completely incompetent and the cartel outmatch the might of the US military

          3) The cartel isn't actually using drones

          4) The US government have shot down dozens of drones but are keeping quiet about it

  • october8140 45 minutes ago
    It could be a soldier who is not a fan of ICE and border protection saw an opportunity and shot it down.
  • mapt 1 hour ago
    Both of these actions are extraordinarily illegal under US law and FAA regulation for a number of reasons. Among them - Permanently blinding a human pilot can be done at 1000 times the range that it takes to melt aluminum, and laser weapons are powerful enough that secondary scatter off shiny surfaces is a real hazard.

    We have a civilian airspace, and we have laser weapons, and we have CBP/ICE MAGA militia dabbling in military work. No two of those are safe to have at the same time in the same place.

    • Eddy_Viscosity2 1 hour ago
      The USA is moving away from concepts like 'laws' and 'illegal' and more towards a system based on vibes and bribes.
      • HardwareLust 12 minutes ago
        "Vibes and bribes" is such a wonderfully apt description of our current regime.
        • kotaKat 2 minutes ago
          Hey now, the system of “checks” and “balances” is still holding up - the checks clear, and the balances go up.
      • AreShoesFeet000 1 hour ago
        Laws and morality have always been bendable. It’s just that doing the bending requires a certain competence that was somehow lost.
        • lazide 44 minutes ago
          It used to be they had enough shame to try to cover it up. That certainly is in the past!
      • lazide 1 hour ago
        It’s always been a case of ‘if they can’t catch you/enforce it, it didn’t happen’.

        It’s absurdly blatant now, however, and backlash is likely to be pretty crazy in 5ish-10ish years once it’s impacted enough people.

        • zombot 4 minutes ago
          By then the opposition will have been renditioned to black holes or killed.
          • lazide 1 minute ago
            The current opposition maybe. No empire/government/strongman lasts forever.
    • general1465 1 hour ago
      > We have a civilian airspace, and we have laser weapons, and we have CBP/ICE MAGA militia dabbling in military work. No two of those are safe to have at the same time in the same place.

      Day of the Triffids, but only for small border city.

  • happymellon 1 hour ago
    Just waiting for these lasers to take out important stuff because they can shoot first, ask later.

    Mistook a helicopter for a drone because of depth perception problems.

  • blondie9x 13 minutes ago
    How much do drones like the one shot down cost? Will taxpayers be getting a refund?
  • aaron695 17 minutes ago
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