John Bradley, author of xv, has died

(voxday.net)

163 points | by linsomniac 3 hours ago

19 comments

  • linsomniac 2 hours ago
    To expand on this a little bit:

    I had a friend that wanted to scan the cover of his album to start selling copies of it online. This would have been in like 1995 maybe. I went out and bought a HP ScanJet and wrote a command-line program run the scanner and grab that image for him.

    I started thinking about making a GUI companion to it. I kept thinking "I need to do this like xv does, I need to do that like xv does." I finally realized: What if I just added a scanning screen to Xv? But because of the license, I couldn't just release it as open source.

    I contacted John Bradley, thinking it was probably a long shot that he'd answer. But he did, and he accepted my idea: I'd sell xv with scanning for $50, and send him half. Real nice guy, though the majority of our interaction was me just sending him periodic checks.

    I had a domain, tummy.com, because it was a fun name for a fat guy, and when I registered the domain my provider (back in the early '90s) wouldn't let me register a .org unless I was a non profit org, so I went with .com. Because of this deal with John Bradley, I registered tummy.com as an LLC to start selling this software. Over around a decade, I sent John well into the 5 digits of licensing fees. Mostly it was one-offs, but there were a few organizations where it was handfulls of copies for their site.

    I had done that software in the evenings while I did a contracting gig at the Telco (USWest). When that contract was up, I was tired of working for a giant company, so I wanted to start doing Linux sys admin consulting. So I started doing that under the tummy.com brand. Did that for around 20 years until around a dozen years ago.

    RIP John Bradley.

    • Barbing 2 hours ago
      Wonderful share, thanks
  • mjd 3 hours ago
    XV was excellent, and had some features I've never seen anywhere else. For example, it had a control panel that would allow you to take part of the color space and map it uniformly to a different part of the color space, for example, turning all the reds (and just the reds) green.

    When my kid, now almost 22, was very small, she would sit on my lap in front of the computer, with XV displaying a picture of Elmo. “Green Elmo!” she would demand. I would adjust the sliders to turn the reds green, and we would laugh uproariously at green Elmo. Next it would be “Purple Elmo!”, and we would laugh even harder.

    This kept us both amused for quite a while.

    (Update: Here's a picture of what that control panel looked like. The turn-Elmo-green control is top center. https://xv.trilon.com/manual/xv-3.10a/color-editor-1.html)

    • linsomniac 3 hours ago
      >a control panel

      That control panel was really great! Particularly for scanning, it was nice to be able to adjust some of the color curves slightly to correct the scanned image.

      However, one thing I REALLY used that control panel for was greyscale images, you could adjust the curve so that things that were barely legible in the image suddenly popped way out. Almost like that trick of rubbing a pencil across a blank page to reveal what someone wrote on the page above it. Or smaller adjustments just to make a greyscale more uniform.

      That was really one of xv's superpowers.

    • chasil 1 hour ago
      The last time that I checked, XV was still in the OpenBSD ports collection. It fits well with fvwm.

      I actually bought a license for XV, and I have the manual.

  • mikepurvis 3 hours ago
    For others whose Linux experience is almost exclusively on the command line, xv is a desktop image viewer, capable of some basic edits:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xv_(software)

  • waynecochran 1 hour ago
    Folks talk about xv in the past tense. I still use it. On AWS it is still a great way for me to view images on headless ECS instances using an X11 server on my Mac. I still use on my local Linux boxes because it has image editing features I still can not find elsewhere.
  • fullstop 2 hours ago
    Sometimes you see credits and say "Oh, wow, I didn't know that they were involved with that!?"

    For John Bradley, it is xv and xcalc.

    For Hisham Muhammad it is htop and LuaRocks.

    And for Jason Donenfeld it is wireguard and cgit.

    Perhaps some of you have other examples.

    • mschuster91 2 hours ago
      > Perhaps some of you have other examples.

      The entirety of the works of Fabrice Bellard. QEMU and FFmpeg are the most well-known ones, but there's also a full blown x86 emulator fully and exclusively written in native JavaScript, a greenfield image compression format, a JS engine and probably a dozen other things I only randomly stumble upon and think "oh, wtf, another Fabrice Bellard thing?".

      • kstrauser 1 hour ago
        On several occasions, I’ve seen some outlandish claim or another on a new piece of software I’ve never heard of, started to roll my eyes, saw that Bellard had written it, and turned back to see what genius thing he’d come up with.

        “New Halting Problem solver,” ok, sure buddy, “by Fabrice Bellard”, ok, so tell me how this works…

      • fullstop 2 hours ago
        I can't even imagine being able to think like he can.
  • protastus 3 hours ago
    xv is my favorite image viewer of all time. I loved how it launched immediately and made it very easy to see an image or browse a folder right from the command-line. 20 years later, computers are dramatically faster and such a fundamental task has become unbearably laggy.
  • kristopolous 2 hours ago
    He was still accepting shareware payment for it on his website, which I think is amazing... https://xv.trilon.com/
  • jhbadger 2 hours ago
    I really liked the widget set (custom made for the program) that xv used. In the 1990s it looked far more "professional" than most GUI apps on Linux/Unix in general.
    • jasperry 1 hour ago
      Even though I hadn't thought about xv in decades, as soon as I read the headline, the image of those 3d buttons with the crisp outlines resurfaced from my memory.
  • mrlonglong 3 hours ago
    Xv! A true blast from the past. A much unappreciated piece of software
  • HoldOnAMinute 2 hours ago
    I was blown away when I discovered xv in the early 90's. Coming from Deluxe Paint and Photon Paint, I was very impressed.
  • paulpauper 2 hours ago
    I am confused why this goes to a tribute page to a musician when everyone is talking about a software developer?
    • linsomniac 2 hours ago
      Originally I posted a link to a gab article that extensively discussed the software developer side of John as well as the musician side, but it has been decided to replace it with a link that only mentions the musician side.
    • mjd 2 hours ago
      Most people are more than one person.
  • nickdothutton 1 hour ago
    xv was fast, stable, had a good interface, and useful far beyond the normal lifespan of such a piece of software. Used it all the time in the early 90s.
  • lysace 3 hours ago
    xv was very neatly and cleverly designed. I liked it a lot in the 90s. Still somehow remember his name.
  • charcircuit 1 hour ago
    The original link of this thread was to: https://gab.com/markofafreeman/posts/116290669616400528
  • latchkey 3 hours ago
    There is a mention of tummy.com and a man, but it is owned by Evelyn Mitchell.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/evelynmitchell/

    • linsomniac 3 hours ago
      I am that man at the Usenix conference.
      • latchkey 3 hours ago
        Cool, are you related to tummy then? I'm just trying to clear up my own confusion.
        • linsomniac 3 hours ago
          As much as anybody these days, since tummy.com shut down 3-5 years ago. I left a dozen years ago. I'm the one that wrote the scanning extensions to xv that were mentioned in the posted article. Evelyn and I were co-owners for the first ~22 years.
          • latchkey 2 hours ago
            Oh wow, thanks for the context and your work!
  • fdefilippo 2 hours ago
    ciao John!
  • toomuchtodo 3 hours ago
    • tomhow 2 hours ago
      We updated the link, thanks!
    • colesantiago 3 hours ago
      RIP.

      This should be the main link, we should replace this link instead of the Gab one.

      • Philpax 3 hours ago
        I'm not sure replacing Gab with Vox Day is much of an improvement!
      • linsomniac 3 hours ago
        Maybe. While the vox link is referenced in the page I posted, the vox link provides way, way less flavor than the posted link. Including, notably, the vox link has no mention of Xv.
        • bosse 2 hours ago
          The flavor in the Gab articles after your post was enough to sour the whole meal.
      • p5248q 3 hours ago
        long time lurker, but yeah I didn't need to experience that hatred on my eyeballs

        going to go pet the cat for 25 minutes

  • selfhoster1312 3 hours ago
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  • tibbydudeza 3 hours ago
    I made the massive mistake of scrolling down - something vile and worse than X.