Building from zero after addiction, prison, and a felony

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204 points | by gavinray 3 hours ago

20 comments

  • ProllyInfamous 57 minutes ago
    Please don't get a motorcycle:

    A good felon buddy of mine has been out now for 4 years. He slowly built a car repair business, with steady clientele, and got his life back on track – including reasonable sobriety and a steady relationship. He and his girl would cruise around often, enjoying their newfound happiness.

    Last week he totaled his Harley and his body (destroyed bike, multiple broken bones). Total reset. He now gets PTSD whenever a Harley revvs by passing... physically cannot work.

    Please don't get a motorcycle.

    • mgambati 0 minutes ago
      HD riders are known for not using decent safety equipment and that bullshit open helmet or none.

      A freaking motorcycle with 300+ kilos moving ate highway speeds or more.

    • qmr 23 minutes ago
      Have you ever been on a motorcycle?

      Closest feeling you can get to flying and a helluva lot cheaper.

      Bike costs are line noise, (cheap!) planes I fly are better part of $200 an hour.

      I get what you're saying though. Barely been on bike since latest baby and wondering if I should just sell them for now.

      As much as I miss riding and wife misses riding with me, if the worst were to happen, yikes.

      • Waterluvian 18 minutes ago
        > Closest feeling you can get to flying

        I’d say this is a strong case against getting one for anyone who has struggled with addiction. In my experience a part of the constant battle is a difficult relationship with sources of stimulation.

      • ProllyInfamous 22 minutes ago
        >Have you ever been on a motorcycle?

        Absolutely. Broken bones, and all.

        ----

        >wondering if I should just sell them for now

        >if the worst were to happen, yikes

        Listen to yourself, Papa.

        ----

        It's a young (dumb) man's game.

      • sam1r 15 minutes ago
        Thanks for sharing!

        What are your thoughts on Roller Coasters? Hit a good theme park, ride maybe 6 with your eyes closed within a couple of hours.

        I can't help but feel riding one (Roller Coaster) is much more optimal than $200/hr flying a plane, and much safer than a motorcycle, even if you rented vs purchase one.

        • cj 5 minutes ago
          > ride maybe 6 with your eyes closed

          That’s like telling a skydiver to go ride the Drop Tower (or whatever the ride is that drops you straight down).

          Not only is the experience different, but you aren’t in control. You aren’t controlling what’s happening.

          For me a big part of the enjoyment comes from being in control of the bike.

          Personally I would get zero enjoyment riding as a passenger on a bike. The thrill comes from riding and maneuvering the bike, not just going fast.

      • estearum 22 minutes ago
        Motorcycles are ridiculously fun but yeah, if you have anything in your life worth preserving or sticking around for, it's statistically a pretty awful decision.
      • 05 15 minutes ago
        EUC or FPV are closer, FPV is also safer..
    • rileytg 34 minutes ago
      I’m sorry if i’m missing something… what does this have to do with his story other than addiction and felony?

      (fwiw i agree regardless, don’t get a motorcycle, lost too many friends to accidents or the following addiction)

      • ProllyInfamous 32 minutes ago
        The wrecklessness which brings some people into prison, is what brings them & others lusting towards motorcycle culture, often shortly upon release. Something something something anti-social something.

        I'm just offering real-world advice after witnessing all the broken bones and jerked roadrash upon this tattoo'd convict's broken body. Shouldn't be alive.

        • coldtea 25 minutes ago
          Billions of people have a motorcycle globally... Some anecdote from a chronically motorcycle adverse culture (US) doesn't mean a whole mean of transport is invalid...
          • qmr 17 minutes ago
            > chronically adverse culture

            That's the thing. On a bike you can do everything right and still lose.

            California is one of the safer places to ride given how many bikes are here and I've still had too many near misses as a trained, experienced, and conservative rider.

            Most people put 1-2k miles a year on their bikes, when I was riding often I put on 2-3k/ month.

          • newaccountman2 11 minutes ago
            A fairly large % of those people--I would wager most, personally--would probably rather have cars, but can't afford to.
          • estearum 21 minutes ago
            Most people riding motorcycles globally are not doing so on busy freeways at 60mph+ multiple times per day, surrounded by 2.5 ton vehicles with poor visibility traveling 60mph+

            Putzing around an urban center on a cafe bike is not what it means to "ride a motorcycle" in the US.

      • richardlblair 26 minutes ago
        He's just pointing out that after putting so much work into getting their life turned around it can easy be ruined by indulging in high risk behavior.

        It's not bad advice, just unlikely to land. Thrill seekers seek thrills.

    • jusgu 21 minutes ago
      if you do, I’d recommend taking motorcycle safety courses on a regular cadence in order to practice your skills. even if you’re a regular rider it’s great to learn the limits of your bike and do emergency maneuvers in a controlled environment

      there’s lots offered near the bay area (where I’m from) and they don’t cost that much for what you’re getting in return

    • antonvs 25 minutes ago
      You could make a similar argument for bicycles.

      Apparently the numbers for bicycles are a bit better, even in adjusted terms, but still. They're very unsafe in general.

      • andoando 6 minutes ago
        I am very risk averse person and I won't ride a bike in LA. In a city with proper infrastructure I would love to.
      • zozbot234 20 minutes ago
        It's a lot easier to ride recklessly on a motorcycle than an ordinary bike. I suppose mopeds/motor scooters (especially electric ones) are the sensible middle-of-the-road option.
    • gavinray 54 minutes ago
      That's horrible but also a stark reminder for how quickly life can change for any one of us...
      • ProllyInfamous 36 minutes ago
        Neither of us have health insurance (forty-something Americans -- USA! USA! USA!). My helpfulness towards him mostly knowing he has nobody else to help him (ER already stabilized him post-accident, plus another trip for sepsis). Also, I love dogs.

        This has been a very terrible and very real lesson in mortality. Wish we had some basic social safety nets for middle-aged unemployables (e.g. single-payer healthcare).

      • sergiotapia 48 minutes ago
        True but a motorcycle is basically 100% given that you will crash and have bad injuries.
        • coldtea 24 minutes ago
          It's hardly any given. You can just ride properly.

          In other countries they are a huge means of transport.

          • estearum 20 minutes ago
            True. If you ride properly, then everyone else on the road is not allowed to hit you by the laws of physics.
        • embedding-shape 28 minutes ago
          It's a risky activity, yes, but lets not forget metropolitan areas in other countries are shock filled with motorcycles and most people live their entire life without being involved in any majorly serious accidents.
        • ProllyInfamous 40 minutes ago
          There are old riders and there are bold riders...

          But somehow no old bold riders.

        • windowshopping 39 minutes ago
          100% given? Lol
    • hollerith 46 minutes ago
      It's only been a week; right?
      • ProllyInfamous 43 minutes ago
        Right; he is fucked up. Girl is now gone, having caught charges herself (stabbed him because he refuses most pain killers and is in a lot of pain right now//ashole).

        So sad to see; I am walking his dogs; last time I saw him I said "I am just worried that this will make you spin out, again."

        Definitely helped me continue deciding not to get a motorcycle, myself.

    • jeron 37 minutes ago
      as someone who just got back from a nice motorcycle group ride: lol
      • qmr 15 minutes ago
        I don't see the appeal of group rides myself. Always seems to be some stupid shit happening.

        Half of the group rides I see are to "honor" or "remember " a rider who died doing something stupid as well.

      • ProllyInfamous 35 minutes ago
        Stay safe, young grasshopper.

        You can be the best rider in the world and still have a bad day/week/month/year/life.

        • PenguinCoder 26 minutes ago
          Can never predict your future. Enjoy what you will, when you can. I was in a motorcycle accident in 2021, TBI, hospitalized for 3mo, induced coma, and rehab for 9 months after.

          I am back on the horse. It is just a zen and still relaxing time, albeit more anxiety while riding, than before. Thankful I can still ride, and I do.

          • qmr 14 minutes ago
            You were in a crash sir.

            I'm glad you're better. Tenacity.

          • ProllyInfamous 19 minutes ago
            Safest travels. Glad to hear you humped back on 'er.
        • coldtea 22 minutes ago
          And you can be the best car driver and still sway off or have some idiot crash into you head-on or miss a red light...
          • qmr 13 minutes ago
            At a minimum you're belted in surrounded by a cage.

            More likely you're belted in your cage and surrounded by airbags.

            Apples to orangutans.

            • ProllyInfamous 4 minutes ago
              >surrounded by a cage

              THIS is the major difference, protecting even the best motorcyclist's abilities.

              Some US highways are posted at 85mph [137km/h] – unprotected flesh doesn't stand a chance!

      • antonvs 24 minutes ago
        That's a bit like saying "I don't wear a seatbelt when driving a car, but I've never had a problem."
        • coldtea 23 minutes ago
          The previous is a bit like saying "My pal got hurt in a car crash, never get a car".
          • andoando 4 minutes ago
            And then when almost every person says that, it turns out to be good advice. But we have statistics on this!
    • arealaccount 20 minutes ago
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    • odiroot 16 minutes ago
      Get a motorcycle. Definitely don't get a HD though.
  • lanewinfield 1 hour ago
    Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you continued success and I also hope that one day someone will share with you about how YOUR story helped them do something similar, just like the article did for you.

    Also, Preston Thorpe (who Gavin mentions as inspiration) has an interesting story as well: https://pthorpe92.dev/intro/my-story/

  • vijucat 2 hours ago
    I love such stories. Right now, a lot of folks I know are struggling to find jobs, so I read the part about how he got a job the first day he was out of jail with some astonishment and nostalgia for the simpler days, when showing interest was often enough to land the job! Now, hoop number 1, the AI resume filter, is a strange obstacle that one has to jump through first.
    • gavinray 44 minutes ago
      The job market is rough. My wife went back to school for audio/sound design, finished the program + got a bunch of certifications.

      She's been trying to get anything, even an unpaid internship, doing sound design, going to local meetups, online conferences, and hasn't had much luck.

      But I told her: it's just a matter of persistence and time. If you're agreeable to be around, passionate about something, and just show up everyday, eventually something is likely to happen.

      • Joel_Mckay 20 minutes ago
        Without a portfolio it will be difficult.

        Would recommend joining a local film club, and get a few small projects done. Additionally, volunteer with local church events, or regular city music festivals.

        Also, could join the local union intake for the production studios. It will be awful until one gets the base hours completed, but it is a feast or famine kind of work schedule some can tolerate. Fine work if you are still a kid.

        Finding stuff online is usually a fools errand these days mostly due to "AI" data mining operations, or outright cons. Best of luck =3

        • ChrisMarshallNY 18 minutes ago
          The key, for me, was to get a computer. Once I had that, the world opened up.

          It allowed me to "get my hands dirty," and experiment, as well as build a portfolio.

          To this day, I have a large amount of public code. It's a habit that I've had, all my adult life.

    • zuzululu 52 minutes ago
      The answer to AI resume filter is AI, if you are not utilizing it as part of your job application process to magnify your output then you are likely going to get bottlenecked from the supply side of the market.
  • arthurofbabylon 1 hour ago
    “ No part of the prose was machine-generated. You will not find machine-written prose on this blog. I consider it deeply disrespectful.”

    <3

    • khazhoux 35 minutes ago
      Writing articles by hand isn’t just smart— it’s important. No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses.

      Key insight: relying on AI for writing assistance helps neither the author nor the audience.

      • antonvs 23 minutes ago
        Ironically saying "isn’t just smart— it’s important" (complete with em-dash!) and "No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses." sounds very AI-generated.

        Not saying it is, just pointing out how messed up the world we live in now is.

        But... was it?

        • dijksterhuis 2 minutes ago
          [delayed]
        • zappb 19 minutes ago
          It reads as clear ironic AI speak.
  • an_d_rew 1 hour ago
    Thank you for sharing. Stories like yours remind us that there is good in the world, and even if it isn’t everywhere, it is still worth cultivating.

    I’m a software engineer née scientist, but my spouse is a therapist who specializes in addiction. They (and I!) cherish stories like yours because we had seen up-close the struggle that so many people face.

  • sam1r 17 minutes ago
    >>> I cut the article out and put it in a documents folder.

    Had to read this a couple of times, to let it sink in that he is cutting with scissors and placing this paper document in a manilla folder.

  • muragekibicho 23 minutes ago
    Extreme mental clarity in "Eventually, she told me that it made more sense for me to quit my job while she worked, so that I could spend all of my free time trying to get another tech job".

    I could've never imagined long-term-thinking like this from a former addict.

  • qmr 22 minutes ago
    Powerful. Thank you for sharing.

    Had to look away to stop from tearing up in Panera a few times at the end.

    Sending this to my sister who has had struggles like this. She recently finished her BS and hopes to be an counselor or therapist after finishing her masters.

  • tickerticker 1 hour ago
    Your compassionate and honest story will, I hope, bear much fruit. You write well..very readable and engaging.
  • isamuel 1 hour ago
    I’m curious (as a recovered alcoholic myself) how you got sober.
    • gavinray 1 hour ago
      I'll be honest, a lot of it was my wife. And also hitting my lowest bottom after becoming homeless and penniless.

      So a combination of looking at what I had done to myself + everyone around me and going "what the fuck." and my ever-vigilant wife who knew I had the capacity and desire to get better.

      For me it really took literally losing everything.

    • stringfood 29 minutes ago
      the secret is to hate drinking and never drink
      • ChrisMarshallNY 20 minutes ago
        That would make sense, wouldn't it?

        "Just say no"?

        Sadly, it doesn't work. If you're an addict, you'll end up manifesting in one way, or many ways. Drugs aren't the only way that it expresses itself.

        I hate alcohol. I always have. The taste makes me sick. The best way to ruin a dessert, is to pour expensive booze on it.

        That didn't stop me from becoming a prize-winning lush, though.

        The thing about addiction, is that it just doesn't make sense. It can't be understood, when looked at, through a rational lens.

        That's a big reason that Recovery is difficult. It's also often badly supported by family members, who don't understand the mechanisms.

        But that's a long story, for other venues. I am happy to read his story, and sincerely wish him luck.

  • judah 20 minutes ago
    This was really encouraging to read. Appreciate the honesty and vulnerability. Keeo going, keep sober, and I hope your future stays bright.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago
    Thanks for sharing, Gavin.

    Can relate. Been 45 years, for me. Got my act together at 18, but before that...

  • madrox 49 minutes ago
    Shout to the author. I don't think I've met you, but I'm proud of you. What you've done is not easy. Neither is talking about it.

    I've not had nearly the adversity of the author, but I do know a little bit about what it's like to have an alternative background that makes companies not want to take a chance on you. It motivates you to take advantage of the chances you're given. The first time someone gave me a job, I felt so utterly grateful that I worked twice as hard as most and complained half as much. You could cynically call that exploitation, but I didn't see it that way.

    When I came into a position to make my own hiring calls, I tried paying that forward, and I got some great employees from it. Arguably a couple duds as well, but I never regretted giving the chance.

    Shout out to Hasura as well, btw. I've encountered their leadership team a couple times and everything about them has screamed integrity. It did not surprise me to hear that they are part of this story.

    • gavinray 38 minutes ago

        > When I came into a position to make my own hiring calls, I tried paying that forward, and I got some great employees from it. Arguably a couple duds as well, but I never regretting giving the chance.
      
      That is the most impactful thing you could have done, I'm sure you changed several peoples lives
      • madrox 1 minute ago
        Thanks. At this point, I believe it's what I will look back on as my legacy. Software is ephemeral, but the people you build it with are what shape how you reflect on it.
  • himata4113 1 hour ago
    I feel happiness reading stories like this. You proved to the world that you can become something great even when all the cards are stacked against you. I often feel despair when I think about where our society is heading, but there will always be people like you who are there to push back against all the wrongs in the world and make the best out of it.
    • gavinray 55 minutes ago
      I'm glad! It sounds really corny, but someone once told me "The only thing you can choose in life is your attitude."

      Sometimes it felt like I'd never get a break, things wouldn't get better. But I tried to tell myself "Every occurrence in life is a numbers game. Against tiny odds, eventually enough attempts statistically OUGHT to pay off."

      And the alternative is bleak, sort of sulking in this pit of despair without hope for tomorrow.

  • TZubiri 1 hour ago
    "AI Use Disclaimer: claude code was used to generate the OpenGraph SVG image.

    No part of the prose was machine-generated. You will not find machine-written prose on this blog. I consider it deeply disrespectful."

    I really like this disclaimer, by disclaiming that a single small thing was done with AI, you make very credible and notable that you did not use LLMs for the important parts.

  • stringfood 46 minutes ago
    Congratulations on your sobriety!!
  • gedy 1 hour ago
    Good on him and shout out for Hasura as well, probably the most pleasant dev experience I had in past 10 years. It was so good, the startup I was at dropped it because CTO got scared that there was no work for the backend devs, ha.
  • Lapsa 44 minutes ago
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  • zuzululu 49 minutes ago
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    • Catloafdev 43 minutes ago
      What a fantastically small-minded perspective. What exactly do you think you're contributing to the conversation here?
      • stringfood 42 minutes ago
        I went to his profile and it's a pattern with him, low effort comments mixed with general rudeness
        • ofjcihen 15 minutes ago
          Got flagged for pointing this out.

          He’s essentially telling this guy that he wishes he had been executed.

      • zuzululu 34 minutes ago
        But your own view that we need to be tolerant and empathetic to drug use, drug dealers can't be criticized ? What possible contribution to society has your attitude made ?
        • Catloafdev 1 minute ago
          So you start by essentially saying OP deserved to die and then you pivot to inventing a strawmen argument to argue against? This isn't Twitter, not sure what value you think you're adding here other than bitterness, anger, and hate.
    • gavinray 43 minutes ago
      Sorry I'm not dead (yet), maybe next go-round of the universe?
    • stringfood 43 minutes ago
      By your own logic the man you 'commend' for turning his life around would be dead at 19 - every good thing he's done since, including the post you're replying to, exists only because nobody took your advice.
      • zuzululu 32 minutes ago
        No, you are projecting your own opinion here. I've commended him for turning away from his wrong path while condemning him for his actions individually that have destroyed lives through the same exact suffering he experienced. I offered no advice.
  • Nuzzerino 1 hour ago
    That’s cool. Unfortunately, today, sobriety doesn’t guarantee that AI companies won’t kill off what’s left of your career (which somewhat weakens the incentives to do so). But congrats!
    • gavinray 1 hour ago

        > sobriety doesn’t guarantee that AI companies won’t kill off what’s left of your career
      
      You're being downvoted, but I'd be lying if I said I don't see that as a distinct (and logical) possibility.

      The ironic thing is, I work for one of those "AI Companies" ;^)

      Claude Code and Codex have done most of my work for the last year, and with the pace of AI improvement, I'm not sure that you'd need (or even want) me in the mix.

      From a business perspective, it makes a lot of financial sense, too.

      I'm sure it's a limited amount of time before I'm dead weight, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, and I'll figure something out if/when it happens =)

      • Nuzzerino 1 hour ago
        My lived experience doesn’t care what the downvotes say (many here are privileged, after all), and it is only a matter of time imo unless something is done about the industry to change course.
        • himata4113 1 hour ago
          I see karma as form of a currency to afford getting downvoted. I actually don't mind the downvotes especially when it's followed by a comment on why. Helps me see parts I've missed.
          • tux3 48 minutes ago
            I wouldn't internalize that idea too much. In a lot of countries traffic fines are a fixed amount, so some people feel like they don't have to respect traffic rules since they can afford to just pay the fine.

            It's one way to process the negative feeling of being fined. But it doesn't really make the roads safer.

            • himata4113 22 minutes ago
              Goes both ways, if you're afraid of getting downvoted you might never find out that people actually agree with you, same goes with traffic tickets sometimes they don't make sense especially related to parking in crowded cities and ebikes, as long as you're not an asshole about it it's fine.
    • irishcoffee 1 hour ago
      Have an upvote. Sobriety is an expectation. I will say though that people I’ve known who went through the journey are some of the smarter people I’ve met. Not all of them, but the whole numbing yourself because your brain can’t quite understand all the thoughts it has, that’s a real thing. Probably sounds insane, but it’s real.